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Post by This Old Hive on Dec 18, 2008 0:31:32 GMT 1
In this thread we'll be talking about some of the(very few ) good things about the movie. I haven't watched it in awhile but I remember the first five mintues were nice except for the hunter and his son. Like when it shows how the predators take the skin off the aliens skull useing that lazer thingy.
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Post by Necrosis on Dec 18, 2008 15:19:41 GMT 1
Why the f**k do people always like to say AVPR is hardly any good? There are PLENTY of good parts to outweight the bad parts.
The fight scenes, the PredAlien, The Predator, etc.
The only bad scenes were with human characters because they were sucky actors in a sucky plot.
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Post by This Old Hive on Dec 19, 2008 1:52:46 GMT 1
Why the f**k do people always like to say AVPR is hardly any good? There are PLENTY of good parts to outweight the bad parts. The fight scenes, the PredAlien, The Predator, etc. The only bad scenes were with human characters because they were sucky actors in a sucky plot. Well I just didn't really like the movie at all really and I actually find that the bad parts outweigh the good parts. Its mostly because of the hole fact that the movies dark as hell which pretty much settles it for me. If the movie was actually clear and easier to see rather then dark I'd probably like the movie more. Plus I can't turn up the brightness on my TV so I can barely see whats going on. As for the fight scenes They were often short, hard to see, and one sided so I dislike almost all of them except for the power station one. The Predalien was ok but it acted to much like a predator. The predator was again ok but was clearly the "favorite" of the film and was often pictured as godly even though its fighting techniques were horrible. The design was ok except the head was to big and the face looked fake.
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Post by Purebreedalien on Dec 20, 2008 12:59:28 GMT 1
Why the f**k do people always like to say AVPR is hardly any good? There are PLENTY of good parts to outweight the bad parts. The fight scenes, the PredAlien, The Predator, etc. The only bad scenes were with human characters because they were sucky actors in a sucky plot. Fight scenes= Sucky Predalien= The worst Predator= Fake looking and stupidly powerful The good things... urm... The end?
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Post by Necrosis on Dec 21, 2008 17:29:40 GMT 1
Why the f**k do people always like to say AVPR is hardly any good? There are PLENTY of good parts to outweight the bad parts. The fight scenes, the PredAlien, The Predator, etc. The only bad scenes were with human characters because they were sucky actors in a sucky plot. Fight scenes= Sucky Predalien= The worst Predator= Fake looking and stupidly powerful The good things... urm... The end? While I understand Aliensetta's points of views, I must challenge you, Purebreed. everything you say is of opinion, so I cannot change that, but I still have my own opinions. The fight scenes were quite plausible. The Predator was an Elite, which means that fighting Xenomorphs should be a mere chore to him. I already argued about the PredAlien, so we best not start it again 'bout PredAliens. Are you kidding? The Predator was more relaistic than P1 or P2 Preds ...... besides, how can you tell the Pred looks fake through all of that darkness?
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Post by Purebreedalien on Dec 22, 2008 12:24:36 GMT 1
Fight scenes plausible? The Aliens just sat there! Predalien over and done with before. Wolf more realistic? Hardly. He didn't hunt, he charged in and used his God-Powers to mash up the Aliens which just sat there anyway. He was immune to acid, he never had to heal in the original cut only ONCE in the Unrated cut and he wasn't even bleeding apart from the end! More realistic my ass. Also in all the production shots he looked crap, his mouth was huge! Now, I admit it was dark, but the end scene was not so dark you COULD see his face and it was stupidly fake!
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Post by Necrosis on Dec 22, 2008 22:06:04 GMT 1
The Fight Begins.....Fight scenes plausible? The Aliens just sat there! Not really. Now that I've seen the movie again, the aliens were either too preoccupied with the humans, or were just trying to get Wolf on their sights.Predalien over and done with before. Amen.Wolf more realistic? Hardly. He didn't hunt, he charged in and used his God-Powers to mash up the Aliens which just sat there anyway. He was immune to acid, he never had to heal in the original cut only ONCE in the Unrated cut and he wasn't even bleeding apart from the end! More realistic my ass. Also in all the production shots he looked crap, his mouth was huge! Now, I admit it was dark, but the end scene was not so dark you COULD see his face and it was stupidly fake! Well. Not sure what to say about his looks. All I can say is I don't care if monsters look real or not (Because I watch friggin' godzilla films). However, Wolf was NOT sent on a hunt. He was sent on an extermination. Wolf=Exterminator Aliens=Vermin. normally, you'd hire a GOOD exterminator. Therefore, the Predator Elite, Wolf, was sent in to exterminate the bugs. Because he was the good exterminator with good skill and wisdom.
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Post by Purebreedalien on Dec 23, 2008 9:55:44 GMT 1
The Fight Begins.....Hehe...Fight scenes plausible? The Aliens just sat there! Not really. Now that I've seen the movie again, the aliens were either too preoccupied with the humans, or were just trying to get Wolf on their sights.Maybe I need to see it again but I remember them just sitting there, looking retarded I might add (just my opinion ), letting Wolf-O-Mighty-One trample all over them. Predalien over and done with before. Amen.Hail the holy spirit yadayadayadaWolf more realistic? Hardly. He didn't hunt, he charged in and used his God-Powers to mash up the Aliens which just sat there anyway. He was immune to acid, he never had to heal in the original cut only ONCE in the Unrated cut and he wasn't even bleeding apart from the end! More realistic my ass. Also in all the production shots he looked crap, his mouth was huge! Now, I admit it was dark, but the end scene was not so dark you COULD see his face and it was stupidly fake! Well. Not sure what to say about his looks. All I can say is I don't care if monsters look real or not (Because I watch friggin' godzilla films). However, Wolf was NOT sent on a hunt. He was sent on an extermination. Wolf=Exterminator Aliens=Vermin. normally, you'd hire a GOOD exterminator. Therefore, the Predator Elite, Wolf, was sent in to exterminate the bugs. Because he was the good exterminator with good skill and wisdom.OK, I see what you mean. It kinda makes sense now. I think that this discussion is more-or-less over.
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Post by This Old Hive on Dec 24, 2008 3:38:17 GMT 1
Sorry to rekindle this argument but this part made by Necrosis catched my eye. However, Wolf was NOT sent on a hunt. He was sent on an extermination. Wolf=Exterminator Aliens=Vermin. normally, you'd hire a GOOD exterminator. Therefore, the Predator Elite, Wolf, was sent in to exterminate the bugs. Because he was the good exterminator with good skill and wisdom Ok there is one HUGE thing wrong with your argument here. Wolf is fighting aliens not "Vermin" or "bugs" but aliens the deadliest species known to man. He shouldn't be squishing them like ants because as seen in every film(except AVPR) aliens are strong, stealthy, tough, and cunning creatures
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Post by Purebreedalien on Dec 24, 2008 10:33:34 GMT 1
I agree. Aliens are the deadliest, not the weakest species.
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Post by Necrosis on Dec 24, 2008 23:36:40 GMT 1
Yeah .... Aliens are so powerful that being blown apart by one burst of bullets doesn't count in their history. Now no film has EVER claimed Xenomorphs of being the deadliest species. They are indeed deadly, but not THE deadliest. The Wolf Predator, being a masterful exterminator, easily exterminated the bugs. Now you say that in all the other films, aliens were powerful but let's look at em for a sec: In Alien, there was only a crew of unknowing humans in a LARGE clunker ship. They hardly had any real weapons aside from some tazers and flamethrowers. Big whup. The flamethrower would easily crisp the sucker, but the weapon would be tough to maneuver with in crowded spaces, and the Aliens hid in the shadows and struck mostly from behind. In Aliens, there was a huge group of Colonial Marines, A backstabbing worker, and two girls that had experience with Xenomorph(s). The Marines had probs with the Xenos because they were just way too high in numbers. Xenos are fast and deadly, but are only powerful because of their Queen (She's the only real powerful aspect in Xenos aside from their numbers). Alien3 used similair elements from the first film. A bunch of unknowing dudes in a huge ass prison with many dark areas. These guys have no weapons aside from melee. Not to mention, the DogAlien is much faster and durable than the HumaLiens. Alien: Rez, the Xenomorphs weren't natural. They all had aspects of the human biology and patterns. Those were the only reasons why they were so smart and crafty. You saw how easy it was for those dudes to blow up two Aliens and even a whole stash of Eggs. The swimming Xeno was different. It's much harder and slower to fire a gun underwater. Not to mention, while climbing up. Now in AVP1, the Xenomorphs were also unnatural. It is proven by fact and the words of director/script writer, Paul Anderson, that the Xenomorphs were all injected with steroids so that they are tougher to hunt (After all, if Aliens were a deadlier species, Why would Preds inject powerful solutions into em for sport?). Not to mention the fact that the three Pred Characters were all newbies in the field of hunting. So it comes down to this: Xenomorphs are powerful in numbers and their strength, but they are still easily breakable. Therefore, the only real powerful force of Xeno Life is the Queen or powerful Hybrids. Therefore again, an experienced hunter like The Wolf Predator would easily destroy the bugs.
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Post by Purebreedalien on Dec 28, 2008 11:59:50 GMT 1
I hate the fact that you are right. >.>
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